Moby has been a musician for 35 years, but he picked up photography when he was just 10 years old. He speaks to Olivier Laurent in an exclusive video interview ahead of the release of his first photobook.
Author: Olivier Laurent
03 May 2011 Tags: Photography books
There’s a lot of dilettantism in the art world, says Richard Melville Hall, who is better known as the DJ and musician Moby. “Actors want to become musicians, musicians want to become actors. I was hesitant to put myself out as a photographer because I could clearly see the criticism that could be levelled – ‘Oh, another musician that thinks he would be good at something else’.” Moby started playing music when he was nine years old, one year before his uncle gave him a Nikon F camera, and he’s not stopped taking pictures since. Now, he’s coming out with his first photobook – Destroyed.
“The book Destroyed and the album Destroyed were made at the same time,” Moby tells BJP in a video interview. “The music on Destroyed was written in hotel rooms late at night when I was on tour, and the images in the book were all shot on tour.” Destroyed is Moby’s way to show that side of touring that is often unexposed, he says. Secluded time spent in artificial spaces such as hotel rooms and backstage waiting areas – images that he contrasts with scenes of vast swaying crowds.
“Everybody else in my family was a visual artist so from an early age I decided I would be a musician in public and I would be a visual artist in private,” he tells BJP. “I was constantly taking pictures – I grew up in darkrooms – I just never showed to anybody the work I did.”
Moby was influenced by photographers such as Irving Penn, Dorothea Lange and André Kertész – “photographers who shot black-and-white,” he says, “because I only knew how to process and print black-and-white. I didn’t even look at colour photography.” What he loved about Kertész’s approach was the fact that he could be casual and formal at the same time. “The classic photograph of the woman with an umbrella jumping across the street – for that shot, he leaned out of his window, so it’s quick, it’s casual, but almost accidentally formal at the same time. The composition is not accidental – that was really inspiring to me.”
But a turning point for him took place 20 years ago when he first saw Wolfgang Tillmans’ pictures. “Up until he came along, craft was such a huge part of photography. You’d look at an Irving Penn picture and you would be amazed about his greyscale and the richness of the picture, and you wondered what film was he using or how he printed it. Then Wolfgang Tillmans came along and said ‘you know what? Craft is great, but you can also have a compelling and amazing picture taken with a 110 instamatic’. That sort of changed my perspective on the process of putting photographs out onto the world. Craft is really nice, but sometimes the most compelling images are not supported by remarkable craft.
“I also find his work to be really emotionally generous and vulnerable at times, whereas a lot of photographers aren’t,” he adds. “With his work, you get the sense that he’s trying to make sense of his environment and trying to communicate his perspective in the hope that people might respond to it. There is that continuing human quest for a universal language. Einstein believed it was numbers. Photography, I think, is a pretty close second as a universal language. Clearly there’s a semiotic issue – if you’re French and you see a picture of a French soldier, it’s going to resonate differently with you than it would for an Indonesian. But there are certain archetypal universal elements in photography that can resonate with a lot of us.”
Moby never intended to show his own photography to the world. “Two or three years ago, I had this idea of going on tour and documenting it, but from a different, idiosyncratic perspective. When I was done, I showed the work to some friends of mine and they were surprisingly encouraging.” From 3000 pictures, he came back with an edit of 200, and to another of 75 that form Destroyed.
In the following video, Moby discusses the current state of the photobook industry:
“I hope that the book makes sense separate from the album, and I hope that the music makes sense separate from the book,” he tells BJP. “As a creator of work, you put the work out there and it’s up to people how they experience it. Some musicians and artists really want to control how people experience what they’ve made. For example, some musicians will put out albums without breaks between the songs, so that you have to listen to them from start to finish. I think I have a more relaxed approach towards how the work is experienced once it leaves my hands.
“I’m quite comfortable putting music out there and seeing how people respond to it, but with photography, it’s my first book and my first shows. I find this makes me nervous. It’s daunting,” he adds. “But I’m also comfortable with the fact that when you put a piece of work out there, it’s a document of the time in which that works was made and of the person who made it, and to an extent you have to be okay with its imperfections. Walking in a gallery where my images are printed, of course, I will want to go back and make them better, but they are what they are. There’s a lot of vulnerability.”
Destroyed is published by Damiani (ISBN: 978-88-6208-155-9), priced £25. For more information visit www.moby.com and www.damianieditore.it.
It may be easier to get a photobook deal than getting a record deal but at the same time it's much easier to get rich with a record deal than with a photobook deal.
Well done BJP for having the fire place sticking out of Moby's head on every shot. A great advertisement for photographic craft from the industry's leading magazine.
Don't give up your day job, mate. You've got that fantastic flat in New York from which you could take some truly cool, and unique images, and yet you give us this naive, newbie rubbish. If fact, just thinking about it, your music is also quite watered down just like these images. What happened to you dude, you used to be a PUNK?!!!
I like Moby's music, so it was with great interest that i looked at his photos, they are as dull as his music is interesting. Really average if not worse.
Very disappointing.
Nail on the head, was Musician wants to be something else, keep looking
I like Moby's music, so it was with great interest that i looked at his photos, they are as dull as his music is interesting. Really average if not worse.
Very disappointing.
Nail on the head, was Musician wants to be something else, keep looking
A great idea to release a book of photos with the album. The photos might be abstracts, but at least there are no photos of tranvestites shooting up,etc, and overall a good idea and he should do it again.
He is in the best possible position to photograph a Moby tour, but instead he has teased us with the unmemorable aspects - the road tunnel, a corridor here, an airplane window there. My favorite photos are ones which are on theme - the crowd and TV studio photos.
Moby is not a photographer who is launching a photo-book, he's a musician selling a new cd.
This photo-book is a great way to launch & sell his cd as he explains in the interview... " People don't buy music CDs anymore, musicians have to find new ways to connect.. blah blah... did I mention my cd comes with my photo-book?"
If you previously paid for his music why wouldn't you buy this book to get his album ?
Some may feel his photographic offering would have been stronger if he wasn't 'giving away' his new album with it. It's a good day for the music industry but not necessarily so for the photographic one.
I could be wrong, the photographic project could be the main focus of his energy and the music is the afterthought, I haven't heard the album.
His photo's are good, his music is good but his marketing skills are amazing.
amped when i saw the cover, but i hate to say it, the rest of his stuff is pretty boring, and boring in a bad way, not boring in the good way, no context or even a hint of narrative. just my opinion though i guess.
Love the photos, he maybe in the postion to take the best photos of the tours he does, but to me it appears he photographs what he sees the mundane everyday, passing moments. He photographs what he sees the most of, airports, hotels, corridors. Love it
Such a shame the idea of an interview on film becomes such a mess. Just goes to show that even with all the technology of DSLR cameras being able to capture video, it doesn't mean you can become a film maker. I am now using this film on how not to conduct an interview.
Destroyed? It should be... Looks like the work of every gap year student I've ever met. Damn right I'm bitter... With justification I'd say...
Plain and Pretentious. Like a photography student trying to impress. If one of my students handed this in, they would get a very bad review. It's way too easy to mix strange snapshots from life randomly together and call it art.
I'm really amazed by the comments. These photos look great to me. Perhaps I'm not as talented a photographer as all of the people leaving negative comments?
Boring? Really? Maybe if random Joe took a bunch of pictures of empty tunnels. But thematically there's a sense of loneliness, sterile scenes with no people, contrasted with the crowds. I'd say it resonates well even with older Moby music like the Heat album. It's fascinating if it journals his life, the contrast between the empty hotel hallways and the packed concerts. I wonder what his life is really like.
Sounds like sour grapes to me...
From an non-professional photographer & artist, I like Moby's photos a lot! He is very brave to put himself out there and it's a brilliant concept to link his separate interests in one theme.
I'm also surprised by the negative comments - especially a photo instructor that sounds close-minded. Genuine critiques meant to help improve an idea or technique are great, but there's nothing wrong with 'simple' everyday images!
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Destroyed is Moby's first photography book. Image © Moby.
Berlin, from Destroyed © Moby.
Brasilia, from Destroyed © Moby.
Brazil, from Destroyed © Moby.
Budapest, from Destroyed © Moby.
Colorado, from Destroyed © Moby.
London, from Destroyed © Moby.
Los Angeles, from Destroyed © Moby.
Luxembourg, from Destroyed © Moby.
Minnesota, from Destroyed © Moby.
New York City, from Destroyed © Moby.
Paris, from Destroyed © Moby.
Paris, from Destroyed © Moby.
Perth, from Destroyed © Moby.
Vienna, from Destroyed © Moby.